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During the Third Battle of Ypres (31 July to 10 November 1917).<br>
During the Third Battle of Ypres (31 July to 10 November 1917).<br>
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The Handley Page O/400 was used over France only by night and not before 1918 ! (used in 1917 on the Oriental theater of operation).
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Movie poster of Der rote Baron.)

Movie (2008)
English title: The Red Baron
French title : Baron Rouge

Starring:
Matthias Schweighöfer (Manfred von Richthofen)
Joseph Fiennes (Capt. Roy Brown)
Lena Headey (Käte Otersdorf)
Til Schweiger (Werner Voss)

From his youth to his death, the romanced story of Manfred von Richthofen.
On the Discussion tab, a study of the numerous paint scheme seen on the Albatroses.


Unidentified Aircraft

Next action is describe as "France, 1916, ten years later".
So we are in 1906... which is impossible!
The first piloted, powered aeroplane flight in Germany was on 28 June 1908 by Jacob Ellehammer (he flew approx 50 meters).
Close to a 1909 Bleriot XI or other monoplane (but not a Etrich Taube nor a Grade monoplane).

An unidentified monoplane seen a couple of years before the beginning of the war. 1909? 1910?

Albatros D.III

Unfinished CGI !
The rudder wears O.A.W. D.I but fuselage and wings are from a D.III.

Royal Aircraft Factory S.E.5

Aircraft given as manned by Lanoe Hawker which was killed by Manfred von Richthofen on 23 November 1916 at the controls of an Airco DH.2 after 7 air victories (not 9 as said by a German pilot). Seen here handling a S.E.5 (not in front units before March 1917).

"la mort qui fauche" (the mowing death) emblem was in fact from the French SPA 94 squadron !

Fictional Aircraft

A fictionnal aircraft mixing some specifications of RAF. BE.8 and De Havilland DH.4. Named as Re.8!

Curtiss JN-4 Jenny (replica)

A 3:4 scaled flyable airframe... only seen on the ground !

Curtiss Jenny ... as written on the cowling.

January 1917: "Pour le Mérite" ...
Garden party to celebrate the medal but the trees have leaves!
A Curtiss JN in German colors ! Really ?
Aircraft was introduced in 1915 but Germany was under blocus. So it's a sized RAF aircraft (we guess the roundel under the new paint). Some of them were used by No. 24 Squadron RAF (the Lanoe Hawker's unit) for training, not on the front line.

Unlikely !

Albatros D.V

Manfred von Richthofen crash-landed in the no man's land (40 mn).
He piloted several Albatros D.Vs all of them without headrest. The D1177/17 was the only D.V full red but devoid of fuselage markings.
Note that this fictitious serial D4693/17 is seen flying again at 49'03 !!

Handley Page O/400

During the Third Battle of Ypres (31 July to 10 November 1917).
The Handley Page O/400 was used over France only by night and not before 1918 ! (used in 1917 on the Oriental theater of operation).

An engine hit by bullets can catch fire... but not become such a fireball: it is not in a basket made of canvas!

Unlikely night mission.
This time, the interception is unlikely as there was no navigation beacon and landing by night was so hasardous... Bombers did it as they were based far behind the front, on bases that could be safely illuminated.

Sopwith F.1 Camel

As for the Richthofen's Albatros D.V, once landed in the No Man's Land, Roy Brown is able to fly the same aircraft 9 minutes later !

Fictitious paint (read the Discussion tab).

SPAD S.VII

Fokker Dr.I

Werner Voss Fokker Dr.I ?

Nice action with the rotary piston engine moving !

Very close paint sheme of Fokker Dr.I, 586/17, Jasta 4 piloted by Ernst Udet in April 1918.

Unidentified Aircraft

Caquot dirigible (M type ?)

Ae 800

Germany was able to capture a Caquot Balloon which flew away following an incident. In three weeks, a copy was soon produced at large scale and used as Ae 800 (Achthundert English 800).
So many balloons is unlikely : all armies had only one or two hundred of them to cover a front line of thousands kilometers (considering the Allies kept a lot of them for instructional purpose or linked to a vessel or a harbour -monitoring approaches against the German submarine-).



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