Talk:Dangers dans le ciel

Thirty Years Ago

On 1st September 1983, the drama of KE007. In memory of all the people victims of these fateful circumstances.
Further episodes will follow in the coming days but feel free to complete this wide TV aviation serie as I haven't all of them.
All the 109 episodes (at this date) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mayday_episodes
LVCDC 14:30, 2 September 2013 (MDT)

The second upload will be about the other flight with a similar fate : Iran Air 655 (already 25 years !). LVCDC 11:55, 22 September 2013 (MDT)

Is this Episode Online and (un)completed ?

Please, remember that a TV serie is split by seasons but not by episodes (look at TV Series section in : http://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=Help:Contents#Formatting ).
Inside each season, the aircraft types are given once but inside each of them, you can list the different episodes in which the viewer will find them.
The following list is built from the data found on wikipedia on September 2013 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mayday_episodes ) which could be different from your country's broadcasting or the DVD edition. [May 2015 update : the order of the list has been changed on the Wikipedia master reference page].
The Status Column gives how to consider each episode :

• Empty : for episodes not yet online;
• C : indicates an episode coming soon;
• O : for those uncompleted (please, try to list what is missing on the right column):
• OK : if all is right.

Please, do not change the order even if it's different from an other list (even from a DVD edition) ! Many thanks for your help and contributions.

Season 1

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
1	1	Unlocking Disaster	United Airlines Flight 811
1	2	Racing the Storm	American Airlines Flight 1420
1	3	Fire in the Sky	Swissair flight 111
1	4	Flying Blind	AeroPeru flight 603
1	5	Cutting Corners	Alaska Airlines flight 261
1	6	Flying on Empty	Air Transat flight 236	OK	by LVCDC

Season 2

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
2	1	Blow Out	British Airways Flight 5390
2	2	A Wounded Bird	Atlantic Southeast Airlines Flight 529
2	3	The Killing Machine	hijacking of Air France Flight 8969
2	4	Deadly Crossroads	Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937 collided with DHL Flight 611
2	5	Lost	American Airlines Flight 965
2	6	Missing Over New York	Avianca Flight 52

Season 3

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
3	1	Mistaken Identity	Iran Air Flight 655	OK	by LVCDC
3	2				dedicated to a sea drama
3	3				dedicated to a railroad drama
3	4	Out of Control	Japan Airlines Flight 123
3	5	Attack Over Baghdad	DHL Airbus A300 reg. OO-DLL
3	6	Ocean Landing	Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961
3	7	Kid in the Cockpit	Aeroflot Flight 593	OK	by LVCDC
3	8	Death and Denial	EgyptAir Flight 990
3	9	Fight for Your Life	FedEx Flight 705
3	10	Helicopter Down	Bristow Flight 56C	OK	by LVCDC
3	11	Hanging by a Thread	Aloha Airlines Flight 243	OK	by LVCDC
3	12				dedicated to a railroad drama
3	13	Bomb on Board	Philippine Airlines Flight 434	C	by LVCDC

Season 4

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
4	1	Desperate Escape	Air France Flight 358
4	2	Falling from the Sky	British Airways Flight 9
4	3	Fire Fight	Air Canada Flight 797
4	4	Final Approach	Korean Air Flight 801
4	5	Hidden Danger	three incidents with the rudders of the Boeing 737
4	6	Panic over the Pacific	China Airlines Flight 006
4	7	Vertigo	Flash Airlines Flight 604
4	8	Ghost Plane	Helios Airways Flight 522
4	9	Out of Sight	1986 Cerritos mid-air collision
4	10	Fog of War	USAF CT-43 crashed in Crotia (1996)

Season 5

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
5	1	Behind Closed Doors	American Airlines Flight 96 and Turkish Airlines Flight 981
5	2	Gimli Glider	The Gimli Glider	OK	By Corkeyandpals
5	3	Invisible Killer	Delta Air Lines Flight 191
5	4	Fanning the Flames	South African Airways Flight 295
5	5	Dead Weight	Air Midwest Flight 5481
5	6	Southern Storm	Southern Airways Flight 242	OK	by LVCDC
5	7	Air India: Explosive Evidence	Air India Flight 182	OK	by LVCDC
5	8	Mixed Signals	Birgenair Flight 301	OK	by LVCDC
5	9	Fatal Distraction	Eastern Air Lines Flight 401
5	10	Phantom Strike	Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907	OK	by Corkeyandpals

Season 6

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
6	1	Ripped Apart	Flights 781, 201, 243, 5390, 811 and 522
6	2	Fatal Flaw	Flights 261, 123, 529, 111, 585, 427 and 517
6	3	Who's Flying the Plane?	Flights 603, 006, 593, 604 and 236

Season 7

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
7	1	Scratching the Surface	China Airlines Flight 611
7	2	Lockerbie Disaster	Pan Am Flight 103
7	3	Blown Apart	Partnair Flight 394
7	4	Operation Babylift	Tan Son Nhut C-5 accident	OK	by LVCDC
7	5	Crash Course	1996 Charkhi Dadri mid-air collision
7	6	Flight 574: Lost	Adam Air Flight 574
7	7	Frozen in Flight	American Eagle Flight 4184	OK	by LVCDC
7	8	Falling Fast	Tuninter Flight 1153	OK	by LVCDC

Season 8

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
8	1	System Breakdown	Several crashes to study the evolution of air traffic control.	C	by Corkeyandpals
8	2	Cruel Skies	Flights 242, 191, 1420 and 9	C	by Corkeyandpals

Season 9

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
9	1	Panic on the Runway	British Airtours Flight 28M	C	by Corkeyandpals
9	2	Alarming Silence	Northwest Airlines Flight 255	C	by LVCDC
9	3	Pilot vs. Plane	Air France Flight 296	Ok	by LVCDC
9	4	Cleared for Disaster	USAir Flight 1493/Skywest Airlines Flight 5569	C	by LVCDC
9	5	Target is Destroyed	Korean Air Lines Flight 007	O	missing Mig 21
9	6	Cold Case	Air Ontario Flight 1363 and USAir Flight 405	C	by LVCDC
9	7	The Final Blow	Air Inter Flight 148
9	8	Cracks in the System	Chalk's Ocean Airways Flight 101	OK	by LVCDC

Season 10

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
10	1	Cockpit Failure	Crossair Flight 3597
10	2	The Heathrow Enigma	British Airways Flight 38
10	3	Pilot Betrayed	Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751	OK	by LVCDC
10	4	Dead Tired	Colgan Air Flight 3407
10	5	Hudson River Runway	US Airways Flight 1549
10	6	Who's In Control?	Turkish Airlines Flight 1951	OK	by LVCDC

Season 11

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
11	1	Deadly Reputation	TAM Airlines Flight 3054	C	by Corkeyandpals
11	2	The Plane That Flew Too High	West Caribbean Airways Flight 708
11	3	Split Decision	Arrow Air Flight 1285
11	4	Breakup Over Texas	Continental Express Flight 2574
11	5	Munich Air Disaster	The Munich Air Disaster
11	6	Turning Point	Northwest Airlines Flight 85	OK	by LVCDC
11	7	Bad Attitude	Korean Air Cargo Flight 8509	OK	by LVCDC
11	8	Blind Spot	Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182
11	9	Under Pressure	Nigeria Airways Flight 2120	C	by LVCDC
11	10	I'm The Problem	Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771	OK	by LVCDC
11	11	Nowhere to Land	TACA Flight 110
11	12	The Invisible Plane	The Linate Airport Disaster
11	13	Impossible Landing	United Airlines Flight 232	C	by LVCDC

Season 12

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
12	1	Fight for Control	Reeve Aleutian Airways Flight 8	C	by LVCDC
12	2	Fire in the Hold	ValuJet Flight 592
12	3	Caution to the Wind	Singapore Airlines Flight 006
12	4	Pushed to the Limit	SilkAir Flight 185
12	5	Blind Landing	TANS Perú Flight 204	OK	by LVCDC
12	6	Grand Canyon Disaster	1956 Grand Canyon mid-air collision	OK	by LVCDC
12	7	Catastrophe at O'Hare	American Airlines Flight 191
12	8	Focused on Failure	United Airlines Flight 173	OK	by LVCDC
12	9	Lokomotiv Hockey Team Disaster	2011 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl air disaster	OK	by LVCDC
12	10	Death of the President	2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash	OK	by LVCDC
12	11	Heading to Disaster	Ethiopian Airlines Flight 409
12	12	28 Seconds to Survive	Santa Bárbara Airlines Flight 518
12	13	Air France 447: Vanished	Air France Flight 447

Mayday - Season Thirteen

Season	Episode	Title	Main Subject	Status	Comments
13	1	Fight to the Death	British European Airways Flight 548	OK	by LVCDC
13	2	Speed Trap	Hughes Airwest Flight 706	OK	by LVCDC
13	3	Lost in Translation	Crossair Flight 498	OK	by LVCDC
13	4	Disaster on the Potomac	Air Florida Flight 90
13	5	Queens Catastrophe	American Airlines Flight 587
13	6	Into the Eye of the Storm	NOAA42 Hurricane Hunter Incident
13	7	Massacre over the Mediterranean	Itavia Flight 870
13	8	Imperfect Pitch	XL Airways Germany Flight 888T
13	9	Terror in Paradise	Air Moorea Flight 1121
13	10	Titanic in the Sky	Qantas Flight 32
13	11	Getting out Alive	Special Compilation Episode

Season 14 to 18

(Future)

Name

Should this be renamed "Mayday", as it's the original name of the series and it seems to be policy on the rest of the site that movies and shows should be titled by their original name? Corkeyandpals 22:24, 17 September 2013 (MDT)

Interesting problem ! The serie is canadian and seems baptised with the both names, sold with the one that suits the best depending the nationality of the customer broadcasting network. If you search 'Mayday', the page will be returned as the title is given at the line 'also known as'.

I've mostly worked from the french langage variant which could be slighty different from the british langage one (I'm not sure Gérard Feltzer -despite fully bilingual as a former pilot instructor on Boeings and Airbuses- would appear in the english world). This problem of rework movies/TV series should have a debate on the forum as I've already uploaded pages which refers to such cases : how to consider them ?

Even a movie could have several issues as noted by Puterboy for Lord of the Flies (1963), for example. LVCDC 11:17, 19 September 2013 (MDT)

Maybe we should make a redirect for "Mayday" then? Corkeyandpals 21:38, 19 September 2013 (MDT)

Why not ? But I think we really need a debate on the forum about such question : how to consider variants from countries (or times) regarding the original work ? LVCDC 02:21, 20 September 2013 (MDT)

Bug

Any info when we shall recover thumbnails? Sixcyl 14:02, 19 September 2013 (MDT)

I'm not the Administrator ! I think the first problem are the spammers. The thumbnails could be overrun by uploading pictures of the size usually display on the pages : 500 pixel wide. LVCDC 02:24, 20 September 2013 (MDT)

I know you're not admin. But the bug seems still not fixed. Have you got any info? I don't see any on the forum neither.Sixcyl 13:22, 20 September 2013 (MDT)

You're right but I think the forum is the crossroad to express our distress ! Writing this from page to page is like throwing a pebble in the sea ! I will add to the subject on the forum, the list of the movies suffering from this bug (ten by myself) without forgotten the "Frequently Seen Aircraft" page ! LVCDC 09:39, 23 September 2013 (MDT)

I know, that kind of chat should be better on the forum, But each time I post a comment on the forum, it takes "ages" for it to be displayed on !!Sixcyl 14:29, 23 September 2013 (MDT)

I just hope it will take less time than the unsafe state of last year ... LVCDC 05:27, 24 September 2013 (MDT)

Resizing pics

Could you resize your pictures please.Sixcyl 15:21, 30 November 2013 (MST)

I could but I don't want. As you have probably noticed, I do post no more big sized screenshots (and so I've postponed several uploading). I'm focusing on pages with smaller screenshots. No time for a such rework (which need in the future another uploaded for big sized screenshots [in order to help the smallest details to be visible]). I think the problem is on the side of the wiki, not ours.

Well, if you post a movie with a plane of a new category and already seen elsewhere, this means you need to uploaded 3 times (200 px, 350 px and 500 px) instead a single one with automatic resizing. It's enough for me. Sorry ! LVCDC 18:25, 30 November 2013 (MST)

Excuse me to be so rude but each page is really a hard work for me as I never post pictures taken elsewhere. I always fully watched the film (and so I could write a synopsis) and it takes me hours. As I'm working on a big project (nearly 50 hours of watching, hundreds planes ... which makes me hours to code it correctly and probably tenths of new aircraft categories in sight). So posting a second time pictures which will need a third action in the coming weeks/months ... no thank you ! LVCDC 19:05, 30 November 2013 (MST)

Well, would you mind if I resized them? It shouldn't be too difficult, and as soon as the problem is fixed, you can revert the changes if you want. Corkeyandpals 20:00, 30 November 2013 (MST)

It's kind from you. As the link is probably not working, you can hit the original picture through the search field with file:picture's-name. Thanks for your help ! LVCDC 23:31, 30 November 2013 (MST)

As Corkeyandpals, I agree to resized them too. But I can't register the files and work on them, except for the title screenshot which is reachable by the link enlarging picture. Have you got any other way to suggest for recovering your (big size) pictures?Sixcyl 02:57, 1 December 2013 (MST)

Je confirme :prendre le code original de chaque image et y remplacer image par file (on s'arrête sur jpg en virant les crochets). Ce code mis dans SEARCH, faire GO et la page du fichier s'affiche en 800 pixels. Cliquer sur full resolution ... miracle ! Capito ? LVCDC 05:51, 1 December 2013 (MST)

C'est bien ce que je tentais et comme il le fallait!!!.... mais c'était juste le "full resolution" qui manquait dans la méthode! ... OK merci , on va te faire ça "au petits oignons" tu vas voir! Sixcyl 09:02, 1 December 2013 (MST)

Thanks for the job ! Keep me movie's page number #2500 left for a very huge project. That's why I'm often here despite posting few since two weeks. LVCDC 10:46, 1 December 2013 (MST)

Misidentification

Ep. 5.02 Gimli Glider

Air Canada's Airbus A321-211 not A320.Sixcyl 01:59, 18 March 2014 (MDT)

Ep 3.07 Kid in the Cockpit

Aeroflot Boeing 767 not Airbus A310.
No Douglas matching.
Sixcyl 15:48, 27 March 2014 (MDT)

Pictures 1 to 7

Bad ratio (too flat pics), I replaced them.Sixcyl 05:24, 2 September 2014 (MDT)

Please can you then put a comment on the discussion tab of each prime picture to help BtheBest to detect those ready to be deleted (in order to save space on the DataBase). This will allow him to sort the unused pictures and those need elsewhere (on the forum for example). LVCDC 10:27, 2 September 2014 (MDT)

Italic characters

Italic character can be reached with:

< i > text< / i > like Italic.
or
text like Italic.
not "Italic ".

Thanks to check. Sixcyl 07:13, 9 November 2014 (MST)

Identification

Ep 1.06 Flying on Empty

The white aircraft seen from underneath is an Airbus A320. Unidentified airline.
The Sikorsky S-76 is a S-76A from Ontario Ministry of Health.
Sixcyl 12:43, 6 October 2014 (MDT)

Ep 3.07 Kid in the Cockpit

Airplane manufacturer area is from Fokker, with three Fokker 100 on the assembly line.
Sixcyl 13:02, 6 October 2014 (MDT)

Ep 5.07 Air India: Explosive Evidence

2nd picture is a Boeing 767, not an Airbus. 3rd is an Airbus A300.Sixcyl 03:33, 9 November 2014 (MST)

Ep. 5.08 Mixed Signals

832 Series from Delta Air Lines. Same picture displayed in Ep. 7.07 Frozen in Flight. Sixcyl 03:37, 9 November 2014 (MST)

Ep. 12.6 Grand Canyon Disaster

No 749A in these TWA constellations, both are L-1049 with squared shape Windows.Sixcyl 07:02, 9 November 2014 (MST)

DC-6B of American Airlines. The Stratocruiser is from Northwest Airlines, a 377-10-30. The Viscount is a 757 series from TCA, former name à Air Canada.Sixcyl 07:05, 9 November 2014 (MST)

Episode Veracity

saison 12 - Ep 10 : Death of the President

I don't know precisely (and even sometimes not at all) most of each episode's subject. But about Ep. 10/S. 12, I was surprised by some omitted details as I was very interested by the crash in 2010 and have follow the official report.
Probably in order to keep the story easy for the common people, they don't say that the crash occured on the third trial approach. Most surprising, nothing is said about the other polish flight (PLF 031 flight, a Yak 40) which had landed minutes before and which had radioed directly to the presidential aircraft on the unfavorable weather conditions.
LVCDC 09:07, 12 December 2014 (MST)

Identifications

Ep. 3.10 Helicopter Down

The picture shows a 737-200 Series, not a "modified" 737.Sixcyl 14:59, 19 January 2015 (MST)

Air France didn't use the 767 a long time. These planes came from UTA's subsidiary Aéromaritime fleet when the merge with Air France was done. The AF livery had non usual grey stripe on the fuselage, that we don't see here, and the Logo AIR FRANCE was sharper than on this one. Sixcyl 14:59, 19 January 2015 (MST)

Thanks for your sharp eye ! It was just an hypothesis as I've worked with an old VHS copy of poor quality. I suppose airliners in the background could be identified, at least their company owners on a better screenshot ... LVCDC 10:06, 20 January 2015 (MST)

New pictures

(Upload log); 17:15 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A320 US-Airways.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:14 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A320 chine.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:14 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 toy.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:13 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A320.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:12 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 AF296.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:12 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 Deperdussin.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:11 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 AD-4.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:07 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 B737.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:06 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 B767.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:06 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A310.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:06 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A300.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:04 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A-4b.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:04 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 A-4.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:03 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 Piper.jpg"
(Upload log); 17:03 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S9E3 Bo-105.jpg"

I guess all these new pics will be soon included in the page, section 9?? Sixcyl 00:20, 12 May 2015 (MDT)

Done ! I have had an urgency ... But I'm sure you will be happy to give more details on the last Airbuses A320. And the "American Toy" has over the top wing a registration starting with N... LVCDC 05:40, 12 May 2015 (MDT)

The tail seen under the Bo 105 is not a Boeing 747 but this of the unfortunate A320 F-GHKC. Thanks for details about others A320s of this episode. LVCDC 17:55, 14 May 2015 (MDT)

Oh Yes I made a confusion! I found indeed the tree to much very close to this fin! ...Sixcyl 01:50, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Pictures seen on S11E7

Three pictures are seen on the wall behind the investigator. They are drawings used during the sixties as boxart on these Renwal model kits :

LVCDC 17:55, 14 May 2015 (MDT)

Nice find !
(BTW , I love these old modelkit boxes). Sixcyl 01:51, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Where are these pictures?

(Upload log); 18:20 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7569.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:19 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7578.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:17 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7571.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:17 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7579.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:17 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7570.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:16 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7568.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:16 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7567.jpg"
(Upload log); 18:16 . . LVCDC (Talk | contribs) uploaded "File:DDLC-S11E7 CIMG7566.jpg"
I don't see them in the page yet.Sixcyl 01:50, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Relax ! As you probably noticed, since end of March, I'm very busy and work for IMPDB only few minutes a day, instead several hours before. This mean that I need two or three sessions to put online a full work. I know that Dver, otkrytaya v nebo is still "on the workbench" (I need attention to identify the several Tu-144 before uploading them) but usually when I started something, I put an end before starting a new project. Of course, Wings of Russia is a big exception if we consider how rich it is ! LVCDC 05:18, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

At least, Ep. 11.07 is completed. Some captions will be probably upgraded (customer's variant name of 747 for example). LVCDC 08:14, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Episode 10.6

I've changed DHC-7 into DHC-8 as we guess a twin engine, not a four engine aircraft in the background. Even in full size, I'm afraid it's risky to choose between some operators of the type... LVCDC 06:55, 19 May 2015 (MDT)

Page Title

If we have a policy of naming pages with the original title of the production, shouldn't this be renamed to Mayday? It was originally produced and aired in Canada with this title. Corkeyandpals 16:16, 13 June 2015 (MDT)

Future of this Project (Splitting)

This page is too huge and often failed to upload correctly, so it will be split in the coming weeks into 'Season's page'. LVCDC (talk) 17:27, 25 October 2018 (MDT)

I've already tested out splitting this page up on the backup site (https://impdb.wikia.com/wiki/Mayday), we could probably copy over those pages and save ourselves a lot of work if you're okay with the format. Corkeyandpals (talk) 01:19, 26 October 2018 (MDT)

I was considering if a page by Season is the right choice or if we should keep the three episodes of Season 6 (with 5 or 7 ?) and the two ones of Season 8 (with 7 or 9 ?) sharing their data with a bigger one ? ... or not ? LVCDC (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2018 (MDT)

Existing data are now split on each Season's page. This Mother Page will be soon modified to link directly each online episode with the right page and place. LVCDC (talk) 16:33, 8 December 2018 (MST)

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